This all began a couple days ago when I ran into Kuhn’s (my local market) to get a loaf of bread. The checker rang me up, handed me my receipt and said “Have a good one.” I said “Um, can I have a bag for my bread?” She said “Do you really need one? It’s only one item.”
I said “As a matter of fact I need two. I store my clothes and shoes in them, line my wastecan with ‘em, all sorts of things.” She said “Okay Boomer” and I gave her the biggest scowl I could muster.
Before I go any further, I should add I know this checker—her name is Jessie, she’s 20 years old and sweet as can be. ‘Ok Boomer’ may be a derogatory expression, but I knew she was just teasing me.
After we laughed, I said “I don’t feel like a Boomer you know… I don’t feel old enough.” She said “My grandmother says the same thing.” I asked how old her grandmother was, she said 73. I said “I’m ten years younger!” She said “Are you sure you’re one?”
I said “Yes, baby boomers are anyone born from the mid-1940s to 1964.” Jessie said that did sound pretty old. Whatever!
When I got home, I went online to look up the whole age demographic thing and was surprised what I learned. Apparently many experts agree the age range for Boomers is too wide, and people on the tail-end (I was born in ‘61) can’t always relate to the older ones in this category.
Do I remember pull tabs on soda & beer cans? I sure do, I stepped on enough with my bare toes growing up. Do I remember S&H Green Stamps? Yes, we got those sticky things at the supermarket and gas station. Do I remember duck n’ cover drills in grade school? No, those were before my time!
In 1999, one such expert came up with a boomer subset called ‘Generation Jones’, for people born between the years 1955-1964. When someone says the name Jane Fonda, do you immediately think of a) Hanoi Jane, Vietnam War protestor b) the woman who started the exercise video craze or c) Ted Turner’s wife?
If you said A, you’re a Boomer. B, you’re a Generation Jones. C, you’re Generation X (born between 1965-1980). The Jane Fonda Rule is mostly for laughs, but does make sense. Still, the more I read about Generation Jones, the more I related to this category.
Later that night, I was talking to my friend Diana on the phone and telling her what happened at the store and the “ok boomer” thing. When Diana said she wasn’t fully comfortable being part of the boomer demographic, I said “listen to this” and told her about Generation Jones.
Diana said “What does the Jones stand for?” I said I didn’t know. She said “Well, I don’t think I want to be part of Generation Jones.” I said “You don’t get a choice in the matter—you’re the same age as me and you’re one whether you like it or not.”
Diana just laughed at me. Why do I bother!
I did learn the name had to do with younger Boomers having a cultural upbringing similar to their older counterparts, and wanting the same level of affluence after reaching adulthood but being met with a recession and stagnant economy instead.
We “late boomers” had to work harder at keeping up with the Joneses, so to speak.
Makes sense to me. All I know is, most of my friends are boomers or older. And right now I am jonesing for a sandwich on this Mancini’s bread.
Thanks! Really interesting, although I don’t feel old enough to fit the category (even though I am!)
ReplyDeleteThanks Marty, and I know just how you feel :^)
DeleteI didn't know all this, so thanks for enlightening me on this dreary day (here at least).
ReplyDeleteThanks DJan, I know it's silly stuff but just trying to avoid the storm clouds awhile longer..
DeleteInteresting post, Doug. And, nice to hear from you again. Born in 1953, I am solidly in the Boomer category--and proud of it! I do agree that those of you that are 10 years younger than me probably share some things with us but you also have your own special things. I have never heard of this Generation Jones so I learned something today. Hope to hear from you again soon.
ReplyDeleteThanks Don, good to hear from you too. I know this is pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things, but was just looking for something light to share. I sure hope you're well.
DeleteI was born in 1959 and I sure as heck don't identify with the 'boomer' generation. I do remember most of those, and I even remember the duck and cover, perhaps my rural school district was behind the times and showed them to us as kindergartners?
ReplyDeleteI do remember green stamps, S&H stamps, and gas stations that would give out glassware with a fillup. Also, and something that few of my friends remember, I can remember government TV commercials advising 'Aliens" to register at their Post Office. They were some sort of poor quality stop motion animation creations and always scared the heck out of me, as the word 'alien' implied visitors from Mars.
Anyone else remember those?
Very interesting, thanks for sharing Anon--I remember that glassware too, but never heard of those 'Aliens register' commercials! I'm going to look for those :^)
DeleteInteresting. I would be part of Generation Jones as well, and it bothers me when someone (my daughter) says Ok Boomer to something I've said. She's not teasing when she says it.
ReplyDeleteWe still have the tabs on beer cans here, though the savings stamps and duck and cover weren't anything we had here in Canada. Things I do remember, is people, including my mom, smoking everywhere. Even in retail stores! I always wondered how many times a piece of clothing was burned by an errant cigarette.
Thank you for sharing Maebeme, and interesting about still having those tabs on your beer cans in Canada--I didn't know that. As for all the cigarettes, yes here too--I grew up with parents who both smoked, in the house. I bet anything I went to school smelling like them too. I bet a lot of us did.
DeleteI was born in 1956 so I do consider myself a younger Boomer. I remember the drills, including the nuclear bomb one. I don't know how standing in the hallway with our backs against the wall would protect us from nuclear fall out though.
ReplyDeleteThank you Margaret, and I can't believe you're 5 years older than me. You look 10 years younger. That's amazing you did those nuclear drills though, wow.
DeleteTechnically I’m not a Boomer – I’m a year too old to fit into that category. However, I guess I have more in common with the early Boomers than any other group.
ReplyDeleteI didn’t (and still don’t) drink soda or beer, but I do know those tabs. We didn’t have Green Stamps here in Oz and we certainly didn’t do duck ‘n’ cover drills at school (or anywhere else).
If you saw the film or read the book of “On the Beach” you’d know that Melbourne was the last place left alive after the nuclear war.
You need a category before A.
I remember Jane Fonda from “Barbarella”, “Cat Ballou”, “Barefoot in the Park”, “Klute” and several others from around (and before) that time.
Thanks Peter--and as a matter of fact, I never read the book but I used to have "On the Beach" on videodisc and loved that moviel. As for a category before A, here in the US they called those "The Silent Generation" (for the people who braved life during WWII with no complaint). But when I first saw that Jane Fonda generational tool (ha) I honestly did wonder about her earlier acting days too. :^)
DeleteGood to see you posting about fun stuff for a change! Hope that means you're feeling some better or at least creating your own diversions. Whatever works! I'm a Jones boomer too but have trouble identifying with both the older and younger ends. I never experienced duck and cover drills but loved pasting green stamps in books. We had blue ones too! Also, we went to the gas station down the street and fished those tabs out of the disposal hole in the pop machines and made them into chains. We also made folded chains out of chewing gum wrappers, do you remember those?
ReplyDeleteHey Bobi, thanks so much--I DO remember those blue stamps and the pop and gum chains, my gosh I forgot all about those. Its nice to know another Jones, haha. I am getting better, still a mix of good and bad but I'm on my way. 🙂
DeleteI get it!!! I can't relate to a lot of "boomer" trivia. I am definitely a Jones! I think I remember going under my desk in first grade, but I was so little, I am not counting it, LOL. And I certainly remember growing up in a small town and "keeping up with the Joneses". Boomer is too wide a range.
ReplyDeleteHaha, thank you Miss Merry and yes you were just a baby with that desk dive so Jones it is! I know this is silly stuff but oh well 🙃
DeleteBut...here's the thing. What if you remember Jane Fonda as ALL of those things? All of it. And I do remember the tabs, and S and H greenstamps. (We would pore over that catalog!) We would all sit around the kitchen table and lick stamps and stick them in their books. spinning great dreams about what mom would get with them. The popcorn maker and a car blanket are about the only thing I remember vividly.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the walk down memory lane, boomer.
Haha thanks Debby, and thanks sharing your own memories. But instead of boomer, can you call me Jonesey? 😉
DeleteTo keep the world straight I printed a list of generational names. It's hanging on my wall, for easy reference.
ReplyDeleteHaha, Joanne glad to hear it. This is very important stuff. 😉
DeleteHi Jonesey! A bit confused about the pull tabs being a thing of the past. Here in Canada they are currently used on beer, soft drink and even pet food cans. And I do remember my mom and her neighbours trading grocery store stamps to fill little reward books. Glad that practice is over. Happy to see you out and about and sharing exchanges again. ❤️❤️🦉
ReplyDeleteHaha thanks Florence--so you're the second one to mention those pull tabs still used in Canada, do they come all the way off the cans? We still have them on some food cans, but only "fold back clips" on ones you drink from. I think I'm ready to move up north, if you need a farmhand let me know :^)
DeleteThe gap is 1946-1964. Easy to remember: Just reverse the last 2 digits. I was born in January 1946, so I am one of the early boomers. Yes, I remember Elvis' "Jailhouse Rock," dancing the Bop and the Twist, etc. That was so Fifties. Then, the Sixties came with the Beatles, the Sexual Revolution and Women's Lib. Those were the days! And yes, I remember Air Raid Drills during elementary school and crouching under my desk with my hands covering my head!
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing, Boomer Gigi! Well, I grew up in the Sixties so I remember them, I just didn't get to enjoy them like you did. :^) But I agree, those were the days.
DeleteWTF!!! My comment disappeared! How come?
ReplyDeleteSorry Gigi, after my blog is online 24 hours, comments stop being published automatically. I get email alerts to confirm they're not spam first. This is to prevent spammers from filling up older blogs with spam content.
DeleteLate commenting Dug... so I know this may go to spam. But just wanted to say that I was born in the summer of 1945 (end of the war) - so I'm considered to be in the 'silent generation', but actually fit better in the 'baby boomers' with Elvis, the twist, etc. because I wasn't there for WW2 or the great depression, etc. The generations overlap. I grew up in the 50's and 60's - and that's Baby Boomer's time.
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing Rian, I was just thinking about you last night.. I hope you're well. As for where you fit in, I agree with you--I've seen your after-wedding photos (with your mod attire) and you're a Boomer Baby Bride all the way :^)
DeleteI'm fine, Dug... just haven't posted lately. Going through some stuff. Had an x-ray, then a Cat scan. Now they want an MRI and a Pet scan. Don't know about the Pet scan... will talk to my doctor about it next week. But Happy Thanksgiving! (in case I don't post for a bit).
DeleteRian, thanks for the update--but that sure sounds like a lot of tests. I hope all turns out well and that you're up to writing more about it on your blog soon. Happy Thanksgiving to you too my friend. :^)
DeleteHi Doug, I love this! As you know I was born in 1964 so very much tail end of boomers. I am definitely Generation Jones. You still have plastic bags?? Not here! Only the very odd time, at a thrift store, farm store do I get a plastic bag.
ReplyDeleteHave a great weekend!❤️
Robin
Haha Robin you are the perfect example of a Generation Jones! As for the plastic bags, they did get rid of them in Pittsburgh but my neighborhood is a couple miles north of the city limits--I was surprised when Kuhns contested the ban and won. I really do make good use of 'em! Hope you have a good weekend too, Ms Jones ;^)
DeleteI'm just a couple years older than you and when I think of Jane Fonda, it's all about Cat Ballou, Barbarella, and perhaps Klute.
ReplyDeleteAnon I do too, those are all great movies. The article I found about this Jones business shared that Fonda test as a lighthearted example I reckon. 🙂
DeleteHi, just having a wander around blogland from Debby's blog 🙂
ReplyDeleteI suppose I qualify, but although 71, the 17 year old is still around!! Never had the duck and cover in the UK as far as I remember, but those stamps, yes...and saving up for glassware or soup mugs...
Thanks for stopping by gz, and thanks for sharing. I know just what you mean having that 17 year self around. I often do too, even when I spot my older self in a mirror. 🙂
DeleteI must be aging backwards. At age 67 I got carded today at the market for a bottle of cooking wine.
ReplyDeleteHaha--we should all be so lucky. 🙂
DeleteDoug, What a fun and insightful post! I love how a simple trip to get bread turned into a deep dive into generational identity. The "Okay Boomer" moment with Jessie was both hilarious and thought-provoking—it’s great that you could laugh about it together. I also didn’t realize how much I related to the idea of Generation Jones until you explained it! It makes so much sense that younger Boomers would have a distinct experience, balancing the cultural legacy of older Boomers with the economic realities of the time. I had to smile when you said, “I should add I know this checker—her name is Jessie, she’s 20 years old and sweet as can be.” I like to get to know the checkers at my grocery and call them by name … “Hi Angie … How are you today.” It never ceases to amaze me at how building this relationship benefits me. I almost always leave the store with a smile. And, by the way, Mancini’s bread is definitely worth jonesing over—sounds like the perfect way to end this generational exploration! 🍞😊 John PS Thank you for the very kind comment on my latest blog post!!!
ReplyDeleteHi John, thanks so much for your kind remarks here--you have to be one of the most thoughtful persons I know :^) I'm glad I'm not alone in my "checker-ships", haha. I was one myself, 40 plus years ago and always enjoyed the friendly customers. Thanks again, and I hope you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving. :^)
DeleteThat was pretty funny about wanting the extra bags for just one loaf of bread. You do know that they sell boxes of bags for your garbage cans?
ReplyDeleteAs for being a boomer, doesn't bother me in the least. I was definitely part of the baby "boom" generation and it was seen throughout my growing up years and even into college.
Everything was done for the baby boom children. We got new schools. There were plenty of teachers. All of our classroom supplies were furnished. Libraries were built. More homes were built. Life was very good for our generation, and I think it still is. I am very grateful to have been born when I was.
Thank you dzkody--about the bags, yes I already bought a roll of them a couple years ago when Pittsburgh announced a new policy banning them. I bought some cloth grocery totes too. But my local market argued they were out of city limits, so we still get them and I put them to good use. :^)
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